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mitt romney picking up a couple points from his debate performance last week. now we are expected to learn more today about the republican challenger foreign policy plans. romney will tell voters at a rally in virginia how he would change course if elected. if expected he would go after the president of handling in attacks. the obama campaign is already fighting back. a spokesperson says we're not going to be lectured by someone who has been an unmitigated disaster on foreign policy. now more on what romney is expected to say at his virginia rally in another hour and why we are talking about foreign policy just a month from the election when of course the economy is the biggest ticket item. reporting in washington jacqueline fell ktvu channel 2 news. >>> it's been called the worst wild fire season on record and the forest service ran out of money to fight the flames. at the end of august funding ran out to pay for the firefighters, fire trucks, and aircraft that fight the flames so the department of agricultural which runs the forest service borrowed from other
mitt romney picking up a couple points from his debate performance last week. now we are expected to learn more today about the republican challenger foreign policy plans. romney will tell voters at a rally in virginia how he would change course if elected. if expected he would go after the president of handling in attacks. the obama campaign is already fighting back. a spokesperson says we're not going to be lectured by someone who has been an unmitigated disaster on foreign policy. now more...
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that what everything mitt romney could have wanted to get out of that debate, he got out of this debate and if he has gotten his potential supporters more enthusiastic about going out to the polls and that's what this reflects, that's very good for mitt romney. >> there is a difference in the wording. he's leading over, romney's leading overall in this survey among the likely voters. gallup also out today though with a poll among registered voters and that's different. that has a poll where we see obama leading by five points, so walk me through it. is there such a big difference, when i get that phone call, i'm probably hearing my kid screaming in the background, so i won't hear the difference. what is the difference? >> i love that we're getting the -- on polling now. a couple of things. each polling sort of public polling has their own art and science to likely voting and it is pretty much an art as it is a science a. lot of people had the art wrong going into the late primaries. that's why you saw early polls in the primaries being way off because you're hilikely voter didn't look l
that what everything mitt romney could have wanted to get out of that debate, he got out of this debate and if he has gotten his potential supporters more enthusiastic about going out to the polls and that's what this reflects, that's very good for mitt romney. >> there is a difference in the wording. he's leading over, romney's leading overall in this survey among the likely voters. gallup also out today though with a poll among registered voters and that's different. that has a poll...
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there's problems with theway romney went through that debate. looked good but didn't exactly convey a lot of truth. your thoughts? >> that's exactly what democrats are saying. paul ryan was out today and says that he expects for the next month he's going to hear from the obama campaign that they are liars and you hear liberals picking up on that. again, to go to this point about "saturday night live," i think it underscores what people already saw from that debate, which is that president obama turned in a very poor performance. i thought that he would have been smart to go on to "saturday night live" and sort of lampoon himself. we saw him do that out west. i guess the "saturday night live" folks reached out to him and they both declined. i think it has been a right of passage in elections, going back to 2008 when mccain was on, obama was on, hillary clinton was on and sarah palin, too. it is part of our political discourse. it reinforces the narratives. i think "snl" has had problems portraying obama. they sbich switched to a new guy. jay ferr
there's problems with theway romney went through that debate. looked good but didn't exactly convey a lot of truth. your thoughts? >> that's exactly what democrats are saying. paul ryan was out today and says that he expects for the next month he's going to hear from the obama campaign that they are liars and you hear liberals picking up on that. again, to go to this point about "saturday night live," i think it underscores what people already saw from that debate, which is that...
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mitt romney had a modest debate bounce. the question is will it be a blip or lasting change. >> gretchen: look at the university of colorado forecasting model. this is interesting. this is the only model that looks at the electoral college and you need those votes to be president. 330, of the 538 map are going to mitt romney. this is the same out fit in august or september or august 22nd prediction they said the same thing. but romney picked up five more points. >> steve: what they do. they look at economics of what is going on nationally and local and state level . they look at wealth and they look at unemployment and all sorts of stuff. they predict mitt romney will win these states. new mexico and that is new since they updated it and, north carolina and win virginia ohio new hampshire colorado, wisconsin and ohio and florida and barack will win michigan and nevada. >> gretchen: i don't think that romney will win minnesota. as a native of that state, that is in the obama camp. >> they say voters hold democrats more respo
mitt romney had a modest debate bounce. the question is will it be a blip or lasting change. >> gretchen: look at the university of colorado forecasting model. this is interesting. this is the only model that looks at the electoral college and you need those votes to be president. 330, of the 538 map are going to mitt romney. this is the same out fit in august or september or august 22nd prediction they said the same thing. but romney picked up five more points. >> steve: what they...
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romney at the first debate? >> well, this isn't the first time, if that's the case, and, indeed, shall we say he had kind of a loose relationship with the facts coloring them to favor his own side, and the question is does it matter at this point when we already know that about 95% of the voters have made up their minds and their feelings about the candidates are pretty well baked in. the people watching now are what we call the low information voters. they can't help it, they're busy with other things perhaps, but they're catching up to the campaign now, and they're going by first impressions, and they might not be that familiar with all the context of the figure that is romney is quoting, and this was where president obama could have done a better job of responding on the spot, but i guess he didn't want to appear rude. >> indeed. okay. i should point out that the gallup tracking poll today does have the president five points ahead, but the pew poll, as i said, has mitt romney ahead by four points. anna marie,
romney at the first debate? >> well, this isn't the first time, if that's the case, and, indeed, shall we say he had kind of a loose relationship with the facts coloring them to favor his own side, and the question is does it matter at this point when we already know that about 95% of the voters have made up their minds and their feelings about the candidates are pretty well baked in. the people watching now are what we call the low information voters. they can't help it, they're busy...
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gibbs tried to tackle romney's debate flip-flops. i think he did it here. let's watch. >> it's not rocket science to believe that the president was disappointed in the expectations that he has for himself. but, look, i think part of that was because, as i said earlier, we met a new mitt romney. we met a mitt romney that wanted to walk away from the central theory of his economic plan which is his tax cut. i don't have a tax cut that's $4.8 trillion or $5 trillion. i'm not going to cut taxes on the rich. i don't have a medicare voucher plan. i love teachers, i think we need more of them. i mean, look, don't believe me, speaker gingrich was pretty eloquent in running during the primaries in saying, look, mitt romney will say absolutely anything to get elected. >> well, one thing i have been saying about the campaign is the president needs surrogates out there, he needs confederates, people out there. i love charleston. a lot of people -- rather charlotte because in charlotte you heard an entire political party speaking led by people like deval patrick, the go
gibbs tried to tackle romney's debate flip-flops. i think he did it here. let's watch. >> it's not rocket science to believe that the president was disappointed in the expectations that he has for himself. but, look, i think part of that was because, as i said earlier, we met a new mitt romney. we met a mitt romney that wanted to walk away from the central theory of his economic plan which is his tax cut. i don't have a tax cut that's $4.8 trillion or $5 trillion. i'm not going to cut...
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. >> pelley: the debate gives mitt romney a boost. we have new polling tonight that shows a change in the race. reports from jan crawford and nancy cordes. and jim axelrod with an executive who's found a formula for succeeding in a tough economy. it's another at-bat for "money ball." >> we essentially have to have players whose performance is better than what we're paying them. captioning sponsored by cbs this is the "cbs evening news" with scott pelley. >> pelley: good evening, in ohio police are searching for victims of the meningitis outbreak. in tennessee, they're reaching out with a phone bank. today federal officials estimated 13,000 americans received steroid injections that may have been contaminated with a potentially lethal fung gas. 105 illnesses have been reported across nine states. eight people have died. the steroids were used to treat back pain and joint pain. those who received injections in their spinal columns are at risk for the brain and final infection known as meningitis. dr. jon lapook begins tonight with the s
. >> pelley: the debate gives mitt romney a boost. we have new polling tonight that shows a change in the race. reports from jan crawford and nancy cordes. and jim axelrod with an executive who's found a formula for succeeding in a tough economy. it's another at-bat for "money ball." >> we essentially have to have players whose performance is better than what we're paying them. captioning sponsored by cbs this is the "cbs evening news" with scott pelley. >>...
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romney get from his strong debate performance? are the main street media losing their love affair with president obama? signs of distress? hour news watch panel weighs in, we'll have it on "happening now." bill: happy monday on this columbus day. the unemployment rate got plenty of attention when it dropped to 7.5%. another number could spell big trouble for the economy. we'll tell you what that is moments away. patti ann: police say they acted just in time to prevent churches from being hit at terrorism. we'll tell you what they found at a hotel and how quick thinking may have saved a lot of lives. >> we just leaf the room as calm as we could be, we told the girls 911? my stomach still churns thinking about it. that make kids happy. and even fewer that make moms happy too. with wholesome noodles and bite sized chicken, nothing brings you together like chicken noodle soup from campbell's. it's amazing what soup can do. patti ann: an illinois man is facing charges under federal anti-terror laws, he's accused of plotting to bomb doz
romney get from his strong debate performance? are the main street media losing their love affair with president obama? signs of distress? hour news watch panel weighs in, we'll have it on "happening now." bill: happy monday on this columbus day. the unemployment rate got plenty of attention when it dropped to 7.5%. another number could spell big trouble for the economy. we'll tell you what that is moments away. patti ann: police say they acted just in time to prevent churches from...
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are getting ready for their debates. democrats are hoping that joe biden does better against paul ryan than president obama did with mitt romney last week. >> i think paul ryan is gonna did a great job. i think that joe biden is a very good key baiter. >> analysts say that there's pressure on ryan to show he's potential protesters presidential material in his first debate. >> early voting begins today. if you want to vote today, head to the offices today but most of them are closed because of columbus day. >>> ven sway sway lan president -- inventoryian venezuelan presidential hugo chavez ran the presidency again. he's the longest-running president in latin-america. >>> fighting continues between syria and turkey. turkish troops have retaliated. the countries have been fighting for six days and five people have died. >>> military experts in israel are working around the clock to examine the remains of a mysterious drone shot down over the weekend. >> the military says it was discovered flying over the northern desert. th
are getting ready for their debates. democrats are hoping that joe biden does better against paul ryan than president obama did with mitt romney last week. >> i think paul ryan is gonna did a great job. i think that joe biden is a very good key baiter. >> analysts say that there's pressure on ryan to show he's potential protesters presidential material in his first debate. >> early voting begins today. if you want to vote today, head to the offices today but most of them are...
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a new post debate gallop poll shows the race is tied. coming up a new ad begins playing today just as mitt romney takes the stage in virginia. in washington, jacqueline fell ktvu channel 2 news. >>> the u.s. forest service ran out of money this year to fight fires during the worst wild fire season on record. at the end of august the money to pay for the firefighters, fire trucks and aircraft was depleted so the department of agricultural which runs the forest service ironically borrowed from other forest management programs the ones that are aimed to prevent the fires in the first place. congress only provided about half the $1 billion it actually cost to fight this years fires. >>> a new report is calling the u.s. navy explanation for radiation contamination in treasure island inadequate. it doesn't explore the possibility the base may have been dusted with radio active ash or soaked with radio active sewage. the radio acknowledged the history was more wide spread than usually thought. >>> san francisco police continue look for the pers
a new post debate gallop poll shows the race is tied. coming up a new ad begins playing today just as mitt romney takes the stage in virginia. in washington, jacqueline fell ktvu channel 2 news. >>> the u.s. forest service ran out of money this year to fight fires during the worst wild fire season on record. at the end of august the money to pay for the firefighters, fire trucks and aircraft was depleted so the department of agricultural which runs the forest service ironically...
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in colorado mitt romney losing ground in the swing state since the debate. a poll found the president is leading by 4 points. that is one point less than a different poll taken before the debate. 80% said they watched the debate. >>> this week the nominees for vice president will go head to head in a debate. coming up, who is expressing confidence. >>> skiera is now -- south korea korea -- 186 miles in hopes of limiting a arm's race. they announced the capability is 500 miles. the change close as gap between the south and the north. he has been developing missiles that could potentially reach a u.s. target by 2016. >>> venezuela voters flock to the polls in a presidential election. why some are traveling several miles to cast their ballots. >> and unanswered questions about a drown shot down in israel. >> and new information about a meningitis outbreak. the three california businesses that could be linked to the disease. . >>> voters in wednesday wednesday are flocking to the polls in the most tightly contested presidential election in a decade. president hu
in colorado mitt romney losing ground in the swing state since the debate. a poll found the president is leading by 4 points. that is one point less than a different poll taken before the debate. 80% said they watched the debate. >>> this week the nominees for vice president will go head to head in a debate. coming up, who is expressing confidence. >>> skiera is now -- south korea korea -- 186 miles in hopes of limiting a arm's race. they announced the capability is 500 miles....
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he's had a great debate. the speech when the president, there's an opening to attack the president on foreign policy. he's still hurt on the benghazi issue. there's room for him to grow there so that's also very important. >> joel, let's get in to that as susan brings up about benghazi. a topic americans want the know more about and the language today on libya is strongest yet heard on that topic. the governor expected to say in the early excerpts as the administration has finally conceded the attacks with a deliberate work of terrorists to impose the dark ideology on others and women and girls fighting to control much of the at least today and who speak to wage war on the west. certainly a lot of new questions, joel, about the administration's response, the current investigation in to that attack in libya and ambassador stevens killed and three other americans and someone that worked in the state department and knew the ambassador, do you think that the administration dropped the ball? >> the speech today is
he's had a great debate. the speech when the president, there's an opening to attack the president on foreign policy. he's still hurt on the benghazi issue. there's room for him to grow there so that's also very important. >> joel, let's get in to that as susan brings up about benghazi. a topic americans want the know more about and the language today on libya is strongest yet heard on that topic. the governor expected to say in the early excerpts as the administration has finally...
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kristen bell poll confirms romney picked up momentum after last week's debate. obama is leading romney by just three points. romney's new strength has the obama campaign focusing on an attack plan. >> governor romney's central for $5c plan calls cut.lion tax- i don't have a $5 trillion tax cut. not telling the truth. >> romney does want to cut tax s that would reduce revenue years.rillion over 10 he said he would offset that by eliminating loopholes and deductions. has refused to say which ones, leaving him open to attack. mitt romney will deliver a today, and president policy.middle east tahman bradley, abc news. >> there was a hot debate on the weekend. commentator tv leaningreilly and left- host jon stewart faced off in a presidential debate on real issues at george washington .niversity demand was so high to see them that crashed the servers. be available for download. it's 43 degrees outside this monday morning. >> still ahead, it's a big day tomorrow for >> welcome back. i'm brian van de graaff. jacqui jeras is attending a conference. we should be in the l
kristen bell poll confirms romney picked up momentum after last week's debate. obama is leading romney by just three points. romney's new strength has the obama campaign focusing on an attack plan. >> governor romney's central for $5c plan calls cut.lion tax- i don't have a $5 trillion tax cut. not telling the truth. >> romney does want to cut tax s that would reduce revenue years.rillion over 10 he said he would offset that by eliminating loopholes and deductions. has refused to...
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then on the 16th you got the second obama-romney debate. on the 22nd final obama-romney debate. then the last friday before the election one more jobs number. my own inclination the job numbers aren't quite as "game change"ing for debates as for the reason voters know how they feel about the economy. they don't need a government report. it does get a lot of attention and we got a race that's plainly at this point even though obama still has a slight advantage in the battleground states this race can go either way. >> interesting. then we got the governor, of course, speaking at vmi about foreign policy, an area for which a little while he appeared to want to take the campaign, at least before the debate. how ground moving is this? >> reporter: i don't think it's very ground moving. it's not what people will vote on. for romney it's an effort to press a leadership advantage which may be one of the things that move the numbers for him after the debate. he looks strong on the stage with president obama. he took the fight to obama. obama was a little bit more passive. but ultimately
then on the 16th you got the second obama-romney debate. on the 22nd final obama-romney debate. then the last friday before the election one more jobs number. my own inclination the job numbers aren't quite as "game change"ing for debates as for the reason voters know how they feel about the economy. they don't need a government report. it does get a lot of attention and we got a race that's plainly at this point even though obama still has a slight advantage in the battleground...
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>> romney has some momentum from the debate. i think the debate is a more powerful political force in the race than the unemployment numbers that came out. we were all talking about those on friday. but you had more than north of 60 million people watching these two guys on wednesday night and you see some momentum, democrats say the gap has narrowed in some states where obama had a lead. he's getting closer in most of the swing states. up two in rasmussen, down three in gallup. and the question is does this week continue that momentum. the vice president debate in the past has been critical for either accelerating or breaking the momentum one way or the other for the party in power. and we saw dick cheney came through twice for president bush, once in 2000 against joe lieberman when they were continuing the progress bush that in the first debate, second time was in breaking the momentum that john kerry had in 2004. and cheney bested john edwards in 2004, that helped him. so we have to see whether paul ryan, who is very smart po
>> romney has some momentum from the debate. i think the debate is a more powerful political force in the race than the unemployment numbers that came out. we were all talking about those on friday. but you had more than north of 60 million people watching these two guys on wednesday night and you see some momentum, democrats say the gap has narrowed in some states where obama had a lead. he's getting closer in most of the swing states. up two in rasmussen, down three in gallup. and the...
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it's "your voice your vote" and mitt romney is ahead with steam in the debate. abc's david muir is here with the latest. >> both campaigns eagerly awaiting polls in those crucial battleground states of who is ahead after the political whiplash. the president lifted with that unemployment rate, now below 8%. even the president overnight reviewing his own debate performance. >> reporter: 3red obama on the west coast overnight, a star-studded concert fund-raiser. the president with a not so subtle reference to his own debate performance. >> they just perform flawlessly night after night. i can't always say the same. >> reporter: one of six fund-raisers expected to bring in nearly $10 million with help from bill clinton and stars including katy perry who tweeted this photo of her presidential polish. it comes as we learned the president had a record haul in september, $181 million in donations. the most that an incumbent president has raised in a single month. but mitt romney charging ahead with his debate performance now getting one of his biggest crowds yet. >> i'
it's "your voice your vote" and mitt romney is ahead with steam in the debate. abc's david muir is here with the latest. >> both campaigns eagerly awaiting polls in those crucial battleground states of who is ahead after the political whiplash. the president lifted with that unemployment rate, now below 8%. even the president overnight reviewing his own debate performance. >> reporter: 3red obama on the west coast overnight, a star-studded concert fund-raiser. the...
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national polls show mitt romney getting a real bounce out of the debate win. we'll have the latest on that ahead. >>> also ahead, we'll have the latest on the escalating meningitis outbreak. the number of cases more than doubling over the weekend to 91. dr. besser joining us with what you need to know right now. >>> and we have some big news for one of our family members, sam. [ applause ] many of you know his fantastic news. over the weekend, do you want to tell, or shall i? >> i -- i drks i -- i was -- i got engaged. [ applause ] >> there's the ring. >> thank you. yeah, thank you very much. and the amazing response from folks all over the country was just incredible for us. and i thank you. and we'll talk about that. >> we have a wedding to plan. >> we got a wedding to plan. >> so excited, sam. we'll talk more about that coming up. >>> that's right, sam is leading off the show because we have freezing weather headlines to talk about. after the third hottest summer on record, the u.s. is getting a quick turnaround with winter-like air. look that snow. so many
national polls show mitt romney getting a real bounce out of the debate win. we'll have the latest on that ahead. >>> also ahead, we'll have the latest on the escalating meningitis outbreak. the number of cases more than doubling over the weekend to 91. dr. besser joining us with what you need to know right now. >>> and we have some big news for one of our family members, sam. [ applause ] many of you know his fantastic news. over the weekend, do you want to tell, or shall i?...
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the president took a jab at his own debate performance last week. he said while the singers are able to perform flawlessly night after night he can't always say the same. >>> mitt romney meantime scheduled to deliver a foreign policy speech today at the virginia military institute. according to his prepared remarks, he will propose a new assertive role for the u.s. in syria, more sanctions on iran, and a change in the u.s. policy in the middle east. the republican nominee will portray president obama as a weak leader. >>> in overnight news back here in the bay area oakland police are investigating a shooting that happened just after 11:00 last night on church street. police say the victims showed up to the east mont police station in a car that was riddled with bullet holes. we don't know the victims condition this morning but so far no arrests have been made. >>> an investigation is under way after a body was found inside a car in east oakland. the body was found at about 5:00 last night at richy and olive streets. police say it was wrapped in clot
the president took a jab at his own debate performance last week. he said while the singers are able to perform flawlessly night after night he can't always say the same. >>> mitt romney meantime scheduled to deliver a foreign policy speech today at the virginia military institute. according to his prepared remarks, he will propose a new assertive role for the u.s. in syria, more sanctions on iran, and a change in the u.s. policy in the middle east. the republican nominee will portray...
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romney is going to talk about at that foreign policy debate? >> -- what mitt romney is going to talk about. >> i think we have heard many of these arguments before, after , governorattacke romney came out and made these points pretty forcefully. from what we have seen, today's speech is going to be a maybe even stronger assertion of his views of those issues. having been on the campaign trail and talk to voters that some of the paul ryan events, it's an argument that has resonated, particularly when it comes to things like foreign aid and how the country is spending its resources. exactly see the relationship being a reciprocal one. that could also be one area the romney campaign is looking for when they decided to hold this speech. >> i want to read a piece of the speech that was released yesterday. let us know what is new from this -- host: are these new ideas are things he has talked about on the campaign trail before? guest: it is what he has said before. goes into a little more details on the policies he would pursue their. but it's a long
romney is going to talk about at that foreign policy debate? >> -- what mitt romney is going to talk about. >> i think we have heard many of these arguments before, after , governorattacke romney came out and made these points pretty forcefully. from what we have seen, today's speech is going to be a maybe even stronger assertion of his views of those issues. having been on the campaign trail and talk to voters that some of the paul ryan events, it's an argument that has resonated,...
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i can't always say the same. >> as for mitt romney, the republican nominee is set to take aim at the president's leadership and foreign policy at the virginia military institute this morning where he is. coming up at 6:30, we will have live team coverage on both sides of the campaign trail, including specifics on mitt romney's plan to crack down on egypt and that crisis in syria. >>> moving to a developing story in hercules. friends and family holding a vigil for a hercules woman found dead inside of her home over the weekend as police try to track down the person or persons who killed her. neighbors placing flowers and notes outside susie ko's home this weekend. police say somebody killed ko friday night. her husband was working at the time in idaho. ko's children simply devastated. >> very shocking. i found out first thing saturday morning. she had passed friday, but my phone had died. as soon as i turned it off, i got a call from my sister, i found out and just hurried home. >> as part of this investigation police removed the front door of that home as evidence and they say ko's c
i can't always say the same. >> as for mitt romney, the republican nominee is set to take aim at the president's leadership and foreign policy at the virginia military institute this morning where he is. coming up at 6:30, we will have live team coverage on both sides of the campaign trail, including specifics on mitt romney's plan to crack down on egypt and that crisis in syria. >>> moving to a developing story in hercules. friends and family holding a vigil for a hercules woman...
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a new gallup poll shows governor romney gaining on the president since their first debate last week. before the debate, the president had a five-point lead in the poll and now they're dead even. look at this poll from the pugh research center, this out this afternoon the this is an important one. governor romney now leads the president by four points among likely voters. after trailing in that same poll by eight points a few weeks ago. we have team fox coverage. ed henry is in california. cal cameron in virginia. the governor covered a lot of ground in that speech. >> he did. this was mitt romney's attempt to suggest that president obama's foreign policy is essentially failed across the globe. there were a whole number of hot spots that they singled out. at one point he suggested the president has only hoped for a strategy and it's not a strategy and mr. romney said we simply can't afford four more years of the current foreign policy. here is a little of his speech. >> with iran closer than irrelevant to nuclear weapons capability, with the conflict in syria threatening to destabiliz
a new gallup poll shows governor romney gaining on the president since their first debate last week. before the debate, the president had a five-point lead in the poll and now they're dead even. look at this poll from the pugh research center, this out this afternoon the this is an important one. governor romney now leads the president by four points among likely voters. after trailing in that same poll by eight points a few weeks ago. we have team fox coverage. ed henry is in california. cal...
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guest: well, i think mitt romney in the first debate supported, made it clear support for education. the democrats will say that republicans want to cut education and make education harder to attain for students, and that is just not true. ryan wanty and govpaul to make sure school is accessible for all students. on the issue of pell grants, the president has tried to divide forever on that. the point of being a back door, i do not think that is true. schools admit students. i think pole grants are going to students who get into the college anyway, and have trouble affording college. one thing that has drawn contrast is the democrats will say mitt romney does not support education. that is not true. i would argue he supports it more. education was heavily supported in massachusetts. the education system there was rated very highly. host: let me put the numbers on the screen. 1.5 million young people between ages of 80-29 eligible to vote here in ohio. you both, i assume, have student loans. the average debt of college students is just under $28,000. the and apply merit among those be
guest: well, i think mitt romney in the first debate supported, made it clear support for education. the democrats will say that republicans want to cut education and make education harder to attain for students, and that is just not true. ryan wanty and govpaul to make sure school is accessible for all students. on the issue of pell grants, the president has tried to divide forever on that. the point of being a back door, i do not think that is true. schools admit students. i think pole grants...
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and it's very hard, particularly right now with a new administration, possibly a romney administration will do because they've gone back and forth from the far left to almost the middle in the last debate and so maybe what we expect to be an extreme republican position will be a very moderate republican position. we just don't know that yet. we don't know how much is a noise of politicians, sound bites and momentary attempts to appease the crowd on both sides. i don't think that one would make a market forecast based on one's prediction on whether romney comes into president or obama remains in. >> mr. vogel, let's go back here on the expectations of real returns for investors because i think you're talking about something that could be incredibly important. there's been tremendous concern regarding pension funds and their expected rates of returns on a yearly basis of around 8%. some said that's unrealistic. do you believe that's now fair? >> it's ridiculous. it's a numbers game in which the bested interest of the pension managers are to offer high returns and bested interest of the p
and it's very hard, particularly right now with a new administration, possibly a romney administration will do because they've gone back and forth from the far left to almost the middle in the last debate and so maybe what we expect to be an extreme republican position will be a very moderate republican position. we just don't know that yet. we don't know how much is a noise of politicians, sound bites and momentary attempts to appease the crowd on both sides. i don't think that one would make...